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 Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: Live editing within browser? |
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A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web design.
I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with similar ease of use.
(Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the visible info therein. . .)
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MoiMoi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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In article <SPfoi.133807$1i1.59017@pd7urf3no>, nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...
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A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web design.
I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with similar ease of use.
(Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the visible info therein. . .)
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AFAIK, up through NetScape 7 has the HTML Composer component. You can still download that from netscape.com. It writes some rather funky HTML (lots of redundant tags, best I remember), but worked okay.
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Ed Mullen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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MoiMoi wrote:
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In article <SPfoi.133807$1i1.59017@pd7urf3no>, nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...
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A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web design.
I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with similar ease of use.
(Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the visible info therein. . .)
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AFAIK, up through NetScape 7 has the HTML Composer component. You can still download that from netscape.com. It writes some rather funky HTML (lots of redundant tags, best I remember), but worked okay.
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Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better than the Composer component of either NS or Mozilla Suite.
http://www.nvu.com/index.php |
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jcmatt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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On Jul 21, 12:20 pm, "M" <nowhere...@twilightzone.net> wrote:
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| I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg |
Have a look here.
http://www.softpedia.com/progSearch/wysiwyg,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,1,0 |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message news:FYSdndOGkYANDDzbnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com...
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MoiMoi wrote:
Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better |
Too complicated. This guy is REALLY a noob. Anything more complicated than a simple RTF-style toolbar is likely to confuse him.
Also, in my experience with NVu and Kompozer, they tend to spontaneously re-format the code on pages.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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<jmatt@webace.com.au> wrote in message
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On Jul 21, 12:20 pm, "M" <nowhere...@twilightzone.net> wrote:
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| I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg |
Have a look here.
http://www.softpedia.com/progSearch/wysiwyg,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,1,0 |
Yikes. I'll start checking 'em out. . .
Thx.
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Mathias K.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M:
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A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web design.
I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with similar ease of use.
(Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the visible info therein. . .)
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I might have something for you!
http://www.snippetmaster.com/
It's a very handy tool that allows you to edit HTML files directly online, or only certain parts of them. The usage is comparable to Word, so your friend should be able to cope with it.
There is a free (lite) and a pro edition, but the lite edition is sufficient in most cases, i think.
~ Mathias |
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Sherm Pendley
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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"M" <nowhereman@twilightzone.net> writes:
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message news:FYSdndOGkYANDDzbnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com...
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MoiMoi wrote:
Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better |
Too complicated. This guy is REALLY a noob. Anything more complicated than a simple RTF-style toolbar is likely to confuse him. |
You could set him up with a simple content-management interface using FCKEditor or some other in-browser editor. That would also avoid the whole upload issue entirely - in my experience, uploading files tends to confuse non-technical people as much or more than writing HTML code.
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jcmatt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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"Mathias K." <mformetalhead@yahoo.de> wrote in message news:8vph73fbb1ew$.15apawx77ncoj.dlg@40tude.net...
Not sure if this is the right tool, but it intrigues me. It appears that you wrap your editable content with specific comment tags. Does this mean I would have to "wrap" each editable text area of my pages? That's a lot of comment tags to litter throughout the site and would increase my behind-the-scenes "housekeeping" horrendously.
Is my understanding correct? For example, the webpage in question includes a lot of tabular data. Would each cell's content have to be wrapped separately in a Snippetmaster tag in order to make it editable?
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Edwin van der Vaart
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:51:12 -0500, Yrrah <Yrrah.spamnothere@hitmail.com> wrote:
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"Mathias K." <mformetalhead@yahoo.de>:
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| There is a free (lite) and a pro edition, but the lite edition is sufficient in most cases, i think. |
The free version of SnippetMaster is crippleware imho.
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One man's crippleware is another man's perfect program. Yrrah...you are a bore.
Crippleware is a program that is useless such as a program that will not save work and one would need to save that work for the program to be useful...and the like...truely crippled. If a program is fully functional for what it does, it is not crippleware simply because a pro version exists that does more. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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"M" <nowhereman@twilightzone.net> wrote in message news:ulroi.134279$xq1.69792@pd7urf1no...
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"Mathias K." <mformetalhead@yahoo.de> wrote in message news:8vph73fbb1ew$.15apawx77ncoj.dlg@40tude.net...
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| Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M: |
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Got my answer, thx. It appears the Pro version would allow wysiwyg vs. text mode editing but not the freeware version. The wysiwyg mode is the one that would work for my friend. I don't want him to see or tinker with the 'behind the scenes' stuff. Good concept though. . .
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Mathias K.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Live editing within browser? |
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Am Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:29:55 GMT schrieb M:
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"M" <nowhereman@twilightzone.net> wrote in message news:ulroi.134279$xq1.69792@pd7urf1no...
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"Mathias K." <mformetalhead@yahoo.de> wrote in message news:8vph73fbb1ew$.15apawx77ncoj.dlg@40tude.net...
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| Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M: |
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Got my answer, thx. It appears the Pro version would allow wysiwyg vs. text mode editing but not the freeware version. The wysiwyg mode is the one that would work for my friend. I don't want him to see or tinker with the 'behind the scenes' stuff. Good concept though. . .
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Just to make that clear:
You can in fact also use WYSIWYG with the free version! It's just that in "general options" you can choose how to edit complete files, in text or wysiwyg mode. The first option is standard. |
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