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 Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:9a5031d0d6b7a55ad1572517dbf0b384@dizum.com...
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:7b82d2c894dab402cb441b242d414f3b@dizum.com... > Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
WHO REALLY CARES ? |
Anyone with their head extricated from their posterior. |
Well said. It's a shame that the most ignorant people are the ones most likely to shoot their mouths off. |
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gavin
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:9a5031d0d6b7a55ad1572517dbf0b384@dizum.com...
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Nomad wrote:
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:7b82d2c894dab402cb441b242d414f3b@dizum.com... > Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
WHO REALLY CARES ? |
Anyone with their head extricated from their posterior. |
Well said. It's a shame that the most ignorant people are the ones most likely to shoot their mouths off. |
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Dan Goodman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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gavin wrote:
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:9a5031d0d6b7a55ad1572517dbf0b384@dizum.com... > Nomad wrote:
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>>"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message > > news:7b82d2c894dab402cb441b242d414f3b@dizum.com... >>> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>>>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice >>>> clean and logical presentation. > > >
>>> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become >>> "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? > > >
>>> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, >>> and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's >>> written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with > >
> > WHO REALLY CARES ?
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> Anyone with their head extricated from their posterior.
Well said. It's a shame that the most ignorant people are the ones most likely to shoot their mouths off. |
Let me get this straight: It's your opinion that 1) how HTML is coded is more important than how it looks/works. 2) Anyone who doesn't know and care about HTML coding is beneath your notice.
Oddly enough, you forgot to mention that Hitler and the other Nazi leaders were notoriously ignorant about HTML. |
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Dan Goodman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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gavin wrote:
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:9a5031d0d6b7a55ad1572517dbf0b384@dizum.com... > Nomad wrote:
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>>"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message > > news:7b82d2c894dab402cb441b242d414f3b@dizum.com... >>> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>>>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice >>>> clean and logical presentation. > > >
>>> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become >>> "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? > > >
>>> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, >>> and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's >>> written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with > >
> > WHO REALLY CARES ?
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> Anyone with their head extricated from their posterior.
Well said. It's a shame that the most ignorant people are the ones most likely to shoot their mouths off. |
Let me get this straight: It's your opinion that 1) how HTML is coded is more important than how it looks/works. 2) Anyone who doesn't know and care about HTML coding is beneath your notice.
Oddly enough, you forgot to mention that Hitler and the other Nazi leaders were notoriously ignorant about HTML. |
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Dan Goodman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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Motzarella wrote:
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In article <7b82d2c894dab402cb441b242d414f3b@dizum.com>, nobody@dizum.com says...
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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> > Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on > > the nice clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? |
Because they're the same kind of fools who don't realize that military tradition is _much_ more important than winning battles.
They're under the delusion that web pages are designed for people to look at and use.
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> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
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> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
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It validates strict...I'm not an HTML genius, but I do now hand code my pages in PSPad entirely. Happy was the day I could move away from WYSIWYG editors. Kinda like the stages I went through with typing...from typing letters, to typing words, to typing thoughts is a big spread.
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Ron May
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Ari <arisilverstein@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:06:56 -0500, Ron May wrote:
> I think a fair comparison is with other ACF member sites here: >
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php >
> As far as "looks good, loads relatively fast and has working links" > I'd say it falls somewhere in the middle of the pack. When it comes > to the actual content, particularly WRT the vetting of the freeware > selections, I'd say that's where it misses the mark. As many have > continually pointed out here, some of the Bear's faves have "issues."
Issues, you mean like they are BearCrapWare? |
Let's just say that, unlike Pricelessware, some of the offerings aren't exactly "The best of the best in Freeware."
Bearware reminds me of the Forrest Gump line about a box of chocolates: You never know what you're gonna get! |
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Me Here
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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Ron May wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Ari <arisilverstein@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:06:56 -0500, Ron May wrote:
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I think a fair comparison is with other ACF member sites here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php
As far as "looks good, loads relatively fast and has working links" I'd say it falls somewhere in the middle of the pack. When it comes to the actual content, particularly WRT the vetting of the freeware selections, I'd say that's where it misses the mark. As many have continually pointed out here, some of the Bear's faves have "issues." |
Issues, you mean like they are BearCrapWare? |
Let's just say that, unlike Pricelessware, some of the offerings aren't exactly "The best of the best in Freeware." |
Pricelessware can't make that claim either - there's some crap in there too. |
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Leon Howes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message news:9e1aa6f7c2c891694e748d15f0c9229b@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
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In article <1214119803.321683@ftpsrv1>
Peter in New Zealand <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
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> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
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Oh for goodness sake! You are probably right - I don't know anything about HTML coding. Reality is that his web site works fine for me, and I personally couldn't care less how it's coded. If it works right and looks good, who cares? At least he's made the effort, and that's more than many have, including me (grin). |
Yep. I agree. I haven't got much time for the bottom guy, but the site is straight forward, simple and works. I would've thought that was the objective, and it succeeded. |
OK. I don't want you to have much time for me my friend. I was asking BB a genuine question (or at least I thought it was) so sorry if I have offended you or anyone else on this thread!
The reason I ask is that I'm considering putting my own website together and I liked the simplicity/quick loading of BB site. I have no real knowledge of HTML and wondered what web editor (if any) he used to construct his site. He may have been able to help me with a recommendation?
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Leon Howes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message news:9e1aa6f7c2c891694e748d15f0c9229b@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
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In article <1214119803.321683@ftpsrv1>
Peter in New Zealand <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
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> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
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Oh for goodness sake! You are probably right - I don't know anything about HTML coding. Reality is that his web site works fine for me, and I personally couldn't care less how it's coded. If it works right and looks good, who cares? At least he's made the effort, and that's more than many have, including me (grin). |
Yep. I agree. I haven't got much time for the bottom guy, but the site is straight forward, simple and works. I would've thought that was the objective, and it succeeded. |
OK. I don't want you to have much time for me my friend. I was asking BB a genuine question (or at least I thought it was) so sorry if I have offended you or anyone else on this thread!
The reason I ask is that I'm considering putting my own website together and I liked the simplicity/quick loading of BB site. I have no real knowledge of HTML and wondered what web editor (if any) he used to construct his site. He may have been able to help me with a recommendation?
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Leon Howes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message news:9e1aa6f7c2c891694e748d15f0c9229b@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
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In article <1214119803.321683@ftpsrv1>
Peter in New Zealand <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
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> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
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> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
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Oh for goodness sake! You are probably right - I don't know anything about HTML coding. Reality is that his web site works fine for me, and I personally couldn't care less how it's coded. If it works right and looks good, who cares? At least he's made the effort, and that's more than many have, including me (grin). |
Yep. I agree. I haven't got much time for the bottom guy, but the site is straight forward, simple and works. I would've thought that was the objective, and it succeeded. |
OK. I don't want you to have much time for me my friend. I was asking BB a genuine question (or at least I thought it was) so sorry if I have offended you or anyone else on this thread!
The reason I ask is that I'm considering putting my own website together and I liked the simplicity/quick loading of BB site. I have no real knowledge of HTML and wondered what web editor (if any) he used to construct his site. He may have been able to help me with a recommendation?
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Ron May
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:15:57 +1000, Me Here <me_here@home> wrote:
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Ron May wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Ari <arisilverstein@yahoo.com> > wrote:
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>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:06:56 -0500, Ron May wrote: >>
>>> I think a fair comparison is with other ACF member sites here: >>>
>>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php >>>
>>> As far as "looks good, loads relatively fast and has working links" >>> I'd say it falls somewhere in the middle of the pack. When it comes >>> to the actual content, particularly WRT the vetting of the freeware >>> selections, I'd say that's where it misses the mark. As many have >>> continually pointed out here, some of the Bear's faves have "issues." >> Issues, you mean like they are BearCrapWare? >
> Let's just say that, unlike Pricelessware, some of the offerings > aren't exactly "The best of the best in Freeware." >
Pricelessware can't make that claim either - there's some crap in there too. |
If you mean the Pricelessware list, you'll need to back that up with examples. If you mean the thousands of programs that are in the larger pricelesswarehome.org program index simply because they've been "mentioned" in ACF at one time or another, that's a different story, but unlike Bearware, if something is crap, it's probably marked as what it is (nagware, crippleware, adware, etc.)
Again, I stand behind what I said above about the Bearware site missing the mark WRT the vetting of the freeware selections. When it comes to content, what Bearware has to offer (a set of links to author websites) is not much more useful than a random Google search. |
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Ron May
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:15:57 +1000, Me Here <me_here@home> wrote:
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Ron May wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Ari <arisilverstein@yahoo.com> > wrote:
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>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:06:56 -0500, Ron May wrote: >>
>>> I think a fair comparison is with other ACF member sites here: >>>
>>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php >>>
>>> As far as "looks good, loads relatively fast and has working links" >>> I'd say it falls somewhere in the middle of the pack. When it comes >>> to the actual content, particularly WRT the vetting of the freeware >>> selections, I'd say that's where it misses the mark. As many have >>> continually pointed out here, some of the Bear's faves have "issues." >> Issues, you mean like they are BearCrapWare? >
> Let's just say that, unlike Pricelessware, some of the offerings > aren't exactly "The best of the best in Freeware." >
Pricelessware can't make that claim either - there's some crap in there too. |
If you mean the Pricelessware list, you'll need to back that up with examples. If you mean the thousands of programs that are in the larger pricelesswarehome.org program index simply because they've been "mentioned" in ACF at one time or another, that's a different story, but unlike Bearware, if something is crap, it's probably marked as what it is (nagware, crippleware, adware, etc.)
Again, I stand behind what I said above about the Bearware site missing the mark WRT the vetting of the freeware selections. When it comes to content, what Bearware has to offer (a set of links to author websites) is not much more useful than a random Google search. |
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Ron May
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:06:44 +1000, Me Here <me_here@home> wrote:
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> If you mean the Pricelessware list,
Yes I did and no, I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you - it'd be pointless. |
It's a pissing contest *YOU* chose to start when you made a claim you can't back up. For that reason, I agree it would be pointless for you to continue. (But you will continue, and I will continue to point out you were just running your mouth without thinking first as you've done before, so let the games begin.) <g> |
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Leon Howes
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news:1214219393.318447@ftpsrv1...
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Leon Howes wrote:
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"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message news:9e1aa6f7c2c891694e748d15f0c9229b@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
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In article <1214119803.321683@ftpsrv1>
Peter in New Zealand <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
>
> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
>
> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
>
Oh for goodness sake! You are probably right - I don't know anything about HTML coding. Reality is that his web site works fine for me, and I
personally couldn't care less how it's coded. If it works right and looks good, who cares? At least he's made the effort, and that's more than many have, including me (grin). |
Yep. I agree. I haven't got much time for the bottom guy, but the site is straight forward, simple and works. I would've thought that was the objective, and it succeeded. |
OK. I don't want you to have much time for me my friend. I was asking BB a genuine question (or at least I thought it was) so sorry if I have offended you or anyone else on this thread!
The reason I ask is that I'm considering putting my own website together and I liked the simplicity/quick loading of BB site. I have no real knowledge of HTML and wondered what web editor (if any) he used to construct his site. He may have been able to help me with a recommendation?
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| Looks like this group has inherited an "APAS Troll Wannabe". Maybe it's the Booshaloon. |
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Opps! It was late at night, I was tired, and I reacted a little. Please accept the apology of a grumpy old man. I have gained so much benefit from this group over the years I would hate to cause any offence. Let's move on. |
No problem. Apology accepted. I'm sure you're not normally a grumpy old man though  ) |
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Leon Howes
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Re: BearWare Website Update |
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"Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote in message news:1214219393.318447@ftpsrv1...
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Leon Howes wrote:
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"Dave U. Random" <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in message news:9e1aa6f7c2c891694e748d15f0c9229b@anonymitaet-im-inter.net...
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In article <1214119803.321683@ftpsrv1>
Peter in New Zealand <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote:
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Peter in New Zealand wrote:
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>> Just been looking at your new site layout. I compliment you on the >> nice
>> clean and logical presentation.
>
> What is is about people that makes them so addle minded they become > "enamored" by any old web page they thinks looks cool? >
> In the mean time there's at least one serious error in his HTML, > and it calls out a Doctype of "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" and it's > written in 4.01 "Strict" to begin with
>
> If the rube is hand coding he's an incompetent buffoon, and if he's > using "authoring" software his choices, as always, are a little > lacking to say the least.
>
Oh for goodness sake! You are probably right - I don't know anything about HTML coding. Reality is that his web site works fine for me, and I
personally couldn't care less how it's coded. If it works right and looks good, who cares? At least he's made the effort, and that's more than many have, including me (grin). |
Yep. I agree. I haven't got much time for the bottom guy, but the site is straight forward, simple and works. I would've thought that was the objective, and it succeeded. |
OK. I don't want you to have much time for me my friend. I was asking BB a genuine question (or at least I thought it was) so sorry if I have offended you or anyone else on this thread!
The reason I ask is that I'm considering putting my own website together and I liked the simplicity/quick loading of BB site. I have no real knowledge of HTML and wondered what web editor (if any) he used to construct his site. He may have been able to help me with a recommendation?
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| Looks like this group has inherited an "APAS Troll Wannabe". Maybe it's the Booshaloon. |
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Opps! It was late at night, I was tired, and I reacted a little. Please accept the apology of a grumpy old man. I have gained so much benefit from this group over the years I would hate to cause any offence. Let's move on. |
No problem. Apology accepted. I'm sure you're not normally a grumpy old man though ) |
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